Haters gonna hate

Why do some people opposed to vaccines have hate in their hearts for those who advocate for vaccines? Are some humans are just really mean people or are these persons opposed to vaccines like wounded animals: they are hurt and acting mean as a self-defense mechanism. What is the explanation for creating memes like this?  How do people justify  writing horrible things about vaccine advocates?


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I really don’t know who created this meme. It has been shared many times all over the internet. This is just the most recent tweet of it I could find.  It’s a picture of Dr Richard Pan, California state senator and one of the authors of the vaccine bill SB277. They make memes and say thinks like this about him all the time. He is compared to Hitler, all sorts of evil characters, and worse.


“But I keep cruising
Can’t stop, won’t stop moving
It’s like I got this music
In my mind
Saying, “It’s gonna be alright.”

‘Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off
Heart-breakers gonna break, break, break, break, break
And the fakers gonna fake, fake, fake, fake, fake
Baby, I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off

I never miss a beat
I’m lightning on my feet
And that’s what they don’t see, mmm-mmm
That’s what they don’t see, mmm-mmm ”

I think this must be Dr Pan’s inner theme song because he and his team really do just keep on moving, even when haters post hateful images and comments about him.


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This one is from Dr Pan’s page yesterday.  If a child made a comment like this in school today, we would have no problem considering this child a bully. What makes grown adults think it is acceptable to make comments like this online? And, don’t they realize comments like this can be saved forever? What if this person goes to apply for a job and her potential employer does a google search?  He or she will find comments like this and think what? What will they think? This is not going to make this person look very good, I think.

I know that when I first started using the internet, more than 20 years ago, I took a seminar called “The internet and the law.” I was interested in using computers in educational settings. The attorney running the seminar made a living representing school districts and others when they got in trouble for doing something stupid online. He tried to fix their mistakes and he also counseled school districts how to protect themselves and students from harm. He advised us to never post anything thinking it would be private. Everything can be hacked. Always use protections, like antivirus and malware software, always back things up, always post statements we would be okay with our mother reading. That one stuck with me. When you post online, don’t post anything that can later be used against you to make you look bad. No threats, no nastiness, no nudity, no porn, nothing illegal, nothing secretive. This is especially important advice for kids who practically live on line. Future employers can and will Google you. They can find the things you think are secret.

So, why don’t grown up antivaxers realize this lesson? Why do they think it is okay to engage in online terrorism against people of opposing positions? Twitter is the worst place simply because they have much more lax rules about harrassment than Facebook and forums.


More nasty memes made about Dr Pan, this time including Dr Dorit Rubinstein Reiss,  Dr Paul Offit, and long-time vaccine advocate, Liz Ditz. These are all kind people in real life. People who have tremendous expertise in their fields, people who never engage in nastiness towards others. Dorit, especially, is very kind and patient with people opposed to vaccines. I am fortunate to know them all and call Dorit my friend.


And, yet, they make pictures about her like this one above. I am not even sure what it means but it doesn’t look positive. The floating head in the helmet is the Skeptical Raptor. 

They can’t even take a joke.  Dorit and a friend once posed, in jest, in front of a Pfizer sign.  It is pretty funny. For someone who is called a “pharma shill” and a “troll” every day, Dorit handles it all with grace. Yet, early this week, prominent antivaxer, Ginger Taylor, felt the need to steal the photograph and post it on her own wall on Facebook.


When it comes to healthcare and science and medicine, what matters is the science. But, to some of the people opposed to vaccines, it is perfectly acceptable to mock and belittle a person’s looks, accent, even the way their children look.


Yes, they stole a picture of Dr Reiss’ child and mocked and belittled it. They took a picture of a lovely, healthy child with rosy cheeks and decided he is vaccine injured and sickly.  What kind of person does this? And who thinks this is going to make anyone respect their opinions?

I am posting all of this to shame them. They should be ashamed. They should grow up and mature and learn that either you have an argument or you do not.  When you devolve as a human and debase your opponents with childish putdowns and mockery and threats you are proving you are among the worst of humanity.

I hope that by sharing these images, someone will realize this is not a group they want to join. This is a cult run by people who never matured past middle school bullying.

And, yes, they do it to me, too.  I got this one today on Dr Pan’s Facebook page.

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My advice to provaxers when you see these comments? When you see the hateful remarks, don’t join their party. Rise above, be respectful, be the change you want to see. If they threaten you or steal your images, report them.




Remember to always think for yourself!



8 thoughts on “Haters gonna hate

  1. The amount of hatred and vitriol in their hearts is so mind-staggering, beyond the beyond. They act like overgrown junior high bullies who still haven’t gotten the message about being nice to everyone and not picking on people they’ve decided “deserve” mockery.

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  3. I don’t see this as a one-sided attack. It’s true, haters are gonna hate, but any extreme views on any topic bring out the worst in people it seems. If I am right, and you’re wrong (or any variation of that–me wrong, you right, etc..), how can there be any constructive conversation about highly hot topics? It’s like talking to someone who already has their mind made up about something–they get defensive if you challenge their view. Using the internet to attack sides is just cowardly. I despise the term “Anti-Vaxxers.” It makes real people, who are really trying to think about the issues at hand seem like a bunch of stupid morons (and that’s a kinder phrase than some would use to describe the group). I am neither here nor there being fully vaccinated as a child. On one side you have the “Vaccines are Wonderful Saviors of Humanity” with websites devoted to sharing all the sad personal anecdotes of children who have died from whooping cough, measles, polio, chicken pox, etc… and on the other side you have “Vaccines are Terrible” with websites devoted to sharing all the sad personal anecdotes of children who have been permanently injured or have died following this vaccine or that vaccine. The statistics are not clear enough to always be useful to anyone and on top of that you have tired parents trying to think about what’s best for their families.

    I have to say that if the CDC really cared about people, we’d do more to address smoking. But hey, it’s a free land and I have a right to put whatever I want into my body, even if it causes others harm. You can’t control me! This is a free country! (Or so the argument goes…). I don’t smoke and don’t care to, but you get the idea.

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