Why I don’t believe the Vaxxed bus stories

To remind you, Vaxxed is the film produced by Andy Wakefield that makes claims about MMR causing autism. I watched it and reviewed it here.  The Vaxxed bus is an RV decorated thematically to resemble the DVD package. It travels America with a revolving team of antivaxers, interviewing people who claim a vaccine injury or have unvaccinated children they believe are very healthy.  The main player is Polly Tommey, who fervently believes the MMR caused her son’s autism and that vaccines murder children and pediatricians are murderers.  She believes every story told to her and requires no proof to verify any claims. She films the stories and also allows the names of the “vaccine injured” to be written on the bus in white.  You can see some of them below.

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Here is why I believe that nearly all Vaxxed stories are not really vaccine injuries: there is not only no evidence to verify most of the claims, there is often evidence to the contrary. 

Note:  I don’t doubt these are stories of real health issues and I feel tremendous sympathy for all these families.  I don’t think they are lying about the health issues but I do think there are too many holes in their claims to take them seriously. I also believe they are doing harm to both public health and their children’s health by denying the reality of the health issues. For example, we know SIDS risk is cut by 50% in vaccinated children. Blaming vaccines for SIDS and not vaccinating infants for that reason puts them at greater risk for SIDS. 

Let’s look at some of the more public examples of Vaxxed injury claims. I will not be violating anyone’s privacy and will only share names and pictures that are on public sites.

Ariella Aisha Talha’s story first came to my attention in mid 2015.  She is number 1229 on the Vaxxed bus. Reading the story, it seemed pretty obvious to me that the child had Krabbe Disease, a 100% fatal genetic condition. The parents, however, refused to believe and, instead, blamed her vaccines. As her condition deteriorated, they continue to seek attention for her supposed “vaccine injury,” including fundraising quite a bit for natural treatments for her. Meanwhile, public posts about her continued to show her condition deteriorating as expected with Krabbe Disease. Ariella passed away in August of 2016, shortly after her baby sister was born. Rumor has it that the baby was conceived because they wanted to use stem cells from her to cure Ariella.  And, unfortunately, it appears the most recent baby also has Krabbe Disease. Since she is unvaccinated, this time they are saying she has suffered damage from toxic mold. They have been raising funds to pay for a doctor who supposedly treats patients for toxic mold-related illnesses.

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Hannah Robinson is #20 on the Vaxxed bus. Her story has gotten quite famous, even appearing in the news in her state. Screenshots I have seen from her pages show her to have gone through multiple trips to the emergency room for paralysis, seizures, pain, and other reported issues. Each time, tests are run and doctors find nothing wrong with her. Her family hints that doctors want to refer to a psychologist, but they have refused to take her to one. They took her to multiple different specialists and she had to drop out of school, due to her health problems. I would guess she had a conversion disorder, which is not a made up illness but a disorder where “the physical symptoms are thought to be an attempt to resolve the conflict the person feels inside.”  But, since her parents refused to take her to a psychologist, they never considered this diagnosis. Hannah also claimed she was infertile. Meanwhile, she had a baby boy earlier this summer and appears to have recovered from a great many of her health issues.  Finally, her claim of vaccine injury was denied for lack of evidence and because the “record neither reveals a “Table Injury” nor contains a medical expert’s opinion or other persuasive evidence indicating that her injuries were caused by a vaccination.”

Colton Berrett is another story of HPV injury.  I found his video interview but not his number on the bus.  Three weeks after his third HPV vaccine, on February 21, 2104,  he started to experience symptoms of neck soreness. He was diagnosed with transverse myelititis.  His family has not, to date, filed a vaccine injury claim.  At this point, the statute of limitations for filing has passed. Still, Colton and his mom continue to believe the HPV vaccine caused his TM and not that it could be caused by a wild virus, which is much more likely.  I am not sure which number he is on the bus.

This weekend, I followed an antivaxer named Lu Drago who was trolling a provax Facebook page back to her profile to see why she is so ardently opposed to vaccines. I found her son, #527 on the bus, a survivor of congenital heart disease, a child with clear epicanthal folds on his eyes (sign of Down Syndrome or some other genetic disorder), and autistic. Rather than blame genetics, apparently his autism is the fault of vaccines. Meantime, several genetic disorders that include epicanthal folds among symptoms are comorbid ( existing simultaneously with) autism.  This woman is devoted to the idea that vaccines are the greatest evil on earth. Why doesn’t she spend her time on something more positive, like support for children with genetic disorders?

Look at all these names.

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Supposedly, there are now 6000 names on the bus and the Vaxxed bus tour continues.  I have not read all 6000 stories but I have a few hundred. Only one was an actual, bonafide vaccine injury, compensated in court.  When Polly interviews these families, she never asks for any evidence. In fact, she makes a big deal about how parents should be trusted and doctors should not. Parents know what is best. Polly preaches to her followers that doctors are not to be trusted.  How does that help children?  How does that help children live longer and healthier?  We know that SIDS and infant mortality rates are at time lows in developed countries, including USA.  Why doesn’t Polly know this?  Why doesn’t she know that there is no autism epidemic, that diagnosis change is responsible for much of the rising rate.

Most importantly, what has happened in these people’s lives that they do not believe what science is telling them, that they believe their opinions over evidence?

If you want me to believe you or your child are vaccine injured, you better pony up some actual evidence.  I am fully aware that vaccines can cause injury, but at a rate of 5500 claims compensated and 3 plus billion vaccines given, in the last 30 years in USA, the risk of vaccine injury is literally 0.000016%. This bus and it’s list is not helping keep children healthy.

 

Remember to always think for yourself,

 

Kathy

PS This is another good post about the veracity, or not, of vaccine injury stories. Written by another Kathy.

 

PPS: I welcome comments from all walks but any comments that call me nasty names, threaten me, refer to the possibility of me burning in hell for all eternity, or harass me in any similar manner will be trashed. 

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88 thoughts on “Why I don’t believe the Vaxxed bus stories

  1. Pretty much what I expected about those stories. I do feel bad for any family that has to deal with severe medical issues, but they are doing harm to their children and the public by denying facts and blaming vaccines. The effect on public health is unpardonable. This is why vaccine mandates have to be implemented (in California, France, Italy).

    These stories continue to show how anti-vaxxers always think it’s the vaccines. Always. I’ve read stories of unvaccinated children getting the chicken pox. The parents blame shedding from a recently vaccinated child. How can they possibly know this?

    An unvaccinated child gets pertussis. The parents blame a recently vaccinated individual who is a “asymptomatic carrier.” Again, why are they so sure?

    It’s always the vaccines.

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    • Yes, I agree. Vaccine mandates and limiting exemptions is the only thing that is going to work to increase vax rates.

      And isn’t it funny how they don’t get that if one is asymptomatic, then one has no symptoms. Meaning, no cough or sneeze. So, how is pertussis magically getting from the symptomless person to others?

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      • But, if everyone was vaccinated, then no one would get pertussis. So, there would be no symptomless carriers. And, if they are symptomless, they are not spreading pertussis in the first place. Yes, we need a better vax but it is better than being unvaxed.

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    • “We are still in our vaccine trials, using aluminium adjuvants, or indeed sometimes other aluminium adjuvanted vaccines as placebos or controls in clinical trials for vaccines, and clearly that’s wrong. Because in that way we are not testing the safety of the adjuvant.”

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    • Wow… You clearly just showed how much research you haven’t done. Even those that create and promote the vaccines state that “shedding” can occur after vaccination, just as it happens with chemo in cancer patients (which is a known fact), and it has also been documented that those who get the pertussis vaccination have the potential to carry the virus without symptoms (aka asymtomatic carrier).

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    • My son’s name is on that bus. He got encephalitis (diagnosed by our Harvard trained neuro) from the MmR and went from. Ever having a delay to severe ASD in 3 months. The stories are real and this “writer” is so desperate claiming Andy Wakefield claims the MMR causes autism. It does and the CDC has covered it up as proven in the 10,000 documents delivered to Posey.

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      • Gin Baggs. I am sorry to hear this. My son’s name is on the bus as well. Our health freedom movement is coming full circle as the truth keeps spilling all over Pharma’s corruption. They’re running out of places to hide. I won’t back down.

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      • I suspect the real story is that the neurologist only diagnosed the encephalitis, but did not give any real reason. Mostly because the reasons are often very difficult to determine.

        My son had seizures when he was two days old, and more later with a what may be a now vaccine preventable disease (just a guess). The neurologist would only say that the seizures “may or may not” be related to his neurodevelopmental delays, which he called “static encephalopathy” … which (as described by someone in his office) is neurologist speak for “we know something is wrong, but not what is wrong nor how it was caused.”

        Most likely what really happened is the neurologist shrugged his/her shoulders and said “maybe.” Mostly because the job of a neurologist is to work with the results of brain injury, not the actual reason. The tests they order are looking for relevant solutions (therapy, drugs, diet), not causes.

        The only blood test I have ever had ordered by a neurologist was for a weird metabolic disorder that would have required a special diet, nothing to do with viral levels (they are not infection disease docs). They rely on the tests done by the medical staff when the child is in the emergency center (which for my newborn was a CT-scan and EEGs, not blood tests, they just gave him antibiotics for a week just in case). They do give lots of EEG tests (the sleep EEG is not fun, try keeping a toddler up all night so they are asleep during office hours!), and will order other weird tests on the general status of bodily fluids, but not the two week effect of vaccines. (this was before MRI scans)

        The explanation from the neurologist about my kid’s had seizures after an actual illness was that the medical literature shows that some viral conditions might cause seizures. He did not even name the disease. The EEG taken in his office was normal, which is why he was not put back on phenobarbital (which he was given after his first seizures, but removed from it when he self-weaned by using the same small dosage by growing from a newborn to a walking toddler… a month before he got sick).

        Anecdotes are not evidence. Signing a name on the side of bus is not proof. Now if Gin Baggs got a favorable ruling from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, that might be something to pay attention to. But only after we read the full testimony of that neurologist.

        I hope her/his next post will be a link to that ruling to show us that Harvard educated neurologist positively proved the present American MMR caused encephalitis. Though we do need to remember that legal rulings do not equate to scientific evidence.

        This is admissible evidence:

        Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2006 Sep;25(9):768-73.
        Encephalopathy after whole-cell pertussis or measles vaccination: lack of evidence for a causal association in a retrospective case-control study.

        Vaccine. 2012 Jan 5;30(2):247-53.
        Lack of association between childhood immunizations and encephalitis in California, 1998-2008.

        Pediatrics. 2015 Feb;135(2):e321-9.
        Safety of measles-containing vaccines in 1-year-old children.

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  2. There are so many of these stories and they all fall along the same theme. Same story with our neighbors child. Sorry but there is something to this even if the author does not want to admit it

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    • All the more reason that they should turn to science to find out why. There are several known genetic sequences for autism and other genetic diseases, and they can help fill in the gaps. What they should do is sign up this:
      https://sparkforautism.org/

      By the way, my son has a genetic heard disorder that is the most common cause of young cardiac death: hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. They have discovered at least eighteen different sequences that cause, unfortunately he as none of those.

      It would be nice if he would fill out the forms, since he also has autism. Unfortunately he is an adult, and we can’t make him do. So I like to encourage other families to take part.

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      • There is NO genetic connection with those that have autism. The latest studies show its s link between various viruses and environmental toxins, both of which are IN VACCINES!

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      • Stephanie: “There is NO genetic connection with those that have autism.”

        Really? I am assuming you did not bother to click on my link. But, still do tell us all about it. But first watch this video:

        “The latest studies show its s link between various viruses and environmental toxins, both of which are IN VACCINES!”

        List them. Make sure they are PubMed indexed studies by reputable researchers.

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    • There are a few thousand of these stories and a few million stories about vaccine-preventable disease disabilities, suffering and death (from before vaccines). There are hundreds of millions, maybe even a few billion, successful vaccine stories. Why go with the itty bitty irrational minority?

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      • What fuels the “itty bitty irrational minority” is mostly the medical neglect for kids who really were vaccine injured because “vaccines are safe.” They are swept under the rug and left to die. If it happened to your kid, you would want to burn the medical industry to the ground too.

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      • What makes you think I don’t have a kid with autism? What makes you think I didn’t lose a kid to SIDS or have a miscarriage? What makes you think any of us provaxers haven’t dealt with pain and suffering in similar ways? We just handle it rationally and don’t blame vaccines for that which they are proven not to cause. We put our energy into actual science. Like, I know a few people who lost children to meningitis and now they work hard for meningitis foundations, to spread awareness. They both helped get Men B vaccine on the US market. I know some people who’ve lost babies to SIDS who work hard to spread awareness of the things one can to to prevent it: back to sleep, not smoking, vaccines, safe sleeping environment. I know people who suffered disabilities from VPDs, before vaccines were invented, who work hard to today’s children don’t have to suffer the same. I know people who have children on the autism spectrum who work hard to prevent abuse from unproven, dangerous “cures” and to advocate for awareness and support. I know adults with autism who work hard in same ways and also advocate for vaccines because they abhor antivaxers calling them damaged. I know lots of people who have a lot of reasons to be on the irrational Vaxxed bus but they chose to be rational and follow the evidence instead of their emotions.

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  3. VaccinesWorkBlog Kathy must be the coldest, most UNempathetic, bordering on the top narcissistic unconscionable megalomaniac human on the planet. Its people like her that make this planet hell.

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      • Because….the disease gives you LIFETIME immunity, unlike the vaccines. My name is one that bus…you don’t know me or my story. You make more assumptions that the people you are criticizing. Your day of reckoning will come, hopefully before you’re too senile to understand the damage you’ve done.

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      • You can have pertussis and tetanus more than once. It is not uncommon to have chicken pox more than once. I had it twice. There are so many strains of flu, that having one doesn’t give you lifetime immunity to the others. There are rare cases of people getting measles more than once.

        I have done no damage. I support what is the best way to keep the most people healthy and safe. I am proud of my advocacy. And, I never make threats to people or harass them.

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      • Wrong, wrong, wrongety wrong. I personally had mumps twice, the second time was in 1968 during a mumps epidemic. You never fully recover from chicken pox, it goes dormant to come back later as shingles. You can get tetanus and diphtheria again if you actually manage to recover. You can get pertussis again as early as five years after you have spent two months coughing your lungs out:
        Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2005 May;24(5 Suppl):S58-61.
        Duration of immunity against pertussis after natural infection or vaccination.

        And if a child survive measles their immune system is suppressed for years, making them more vulnerable to death from other diseases:
        J Infect. 2017 Jun;74 Suppl 1:S10-S17. doi: 10.1016/S0163-4453(17)30185-8.
        Measles, immune suppression and vaccination: direct and indirect nonspecific vaccine benefits.

        But since you dismissed a little boy dying a long and painful death from SSPE from getting measles, I assume you don’t care if kids suffer and die.

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    • Really? And yet I stated in the blog that I empathize tremendously with anyone who has lost a child or has a sick child but since most all these stories are of issues not caused by vaccines then these stories are not helping keep us safe. I want to keep the most children safe as possible. Seems narcissistic to me to blame vaccines for one’s issues and post about it repeatedly. That is all about getting the parent’s attention, now isn’t it? If it was about keeping children safe, they would go with proven, evidence-based facts.

      I think you are just butthurt because you got your world view shattered.

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      • You believe your worldview is the only valid one. I do believe some of the Vaxxed bus stories may be cases of misdiagnosis, especially your point about the case of possible Krabbe’s disease. However, there are many formerly provax pediatricians who became vaccine skeptical after watching some of their own patients develop severe, regressive autism after receiving the MMR vaccine. Others mention seizures or SIDS happening within minutes or hours after earlier childhood vaccines. It made them research other countries that have been outcomes on those issues. Dr. Paul Thomas is one such doctor. Once he implemented a much more conservative vaccine schedule such as they had in Norway at the time he saw the regressive autism in his huge practice drop back to the 1 in 10,000 range, as used to the case in the USA.
        Please also explain away the huge rise in anaphylactic food allergies and deaths that occur each year. Schools now stockpile EpiPens. We need a true vaxed vs unvaxxed study to track these issues. The placebo used for vaccine studies includes all of the adjuvants and other ingredients. Those are meant to stimulate the immune system – perhaps they overstimulate it, thus causing an allergy to something eaten that day.

        The safety studies on the HPV vaccine were fast tracked and woefully inadequate. Look into it. There has been fraud at the CDC and in pharmaceutical companies regarding vaccine safety studies. Look into it. Refute them all. It will keep you very busy.

        I appreciate that you want to help others, but you need more education in order to be well rounded. Watch Vaccines Revealed for starters. There you will learn, among other things, that even in those vaccines safety studies that don’t have a true placebo, they eliminate people from the study who have a history of allergies, autoimmune diseases, and eczema and other conditions that may make the person more likely to react to a vaccine. Those conditions run in my family. So – people like us are were removed from the safety study due to a likelihood to have an adverse reaction.

        Maybe just look into the difference of how drugs are tested – with a true placebo — vs biologics. (vaccines) For more on this topic watch this free youtube interview: “VAXXED Documentary Explored with Filmmakers on Antidote” — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrpK0rbl9w

        Watch Vaccines Reveaaled and the interview above. Refute those instead of just a few cherry picked stories of distraught parents.

        And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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      • Okay, so it is pretty hard for Krabbe to be a misdiagnosis. The child’s parents said she demonstrated a shortage of the enzyme called galactosylceramidase, which is the cause of Krabbe. They just didn’t believe it could be them (genetics) as the cause.

        Febrile seizures can happen after a fever. A vaccine can cause a fever, but so can an illness. Febrile seizures are scary to parents but harmless.

        Dr Thomas has never published any data to support any of his statements.

        The rise in peanut allergies is being explained lately as resulting from late introduction of solids.
        http://time.com/3719341/peanut-allergy-cure-treatment/

        HPV vaccine was not fast-tracked. It had been used in Australia, where it was invented, before it came to USA. There was no reason to reinvent the wheel and treat it as a brand new vaccine before approval here.

        If you check my index, you will see I have seen Vaxxed, Vaccines Revealed, and Truth about vaccines and found them all lacking in good science and full of lies.

        Here is a study of vaccines in patients with autoimmune disease.

        https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/46/9/1459/330414/Vaccination-in-Patients-with-Chronic-Rheumatic-or

        Here is a study of vaccine efficacy and safety in transplant patients.

        https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/46/5/712/287004/A-Prospective-Comparative-Study-of-the-Immune

        Here is a study of vaccine safety in children with allergies.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524898/

        Hey, guess what? Those videos lied to you. There are studies of vaccine safety and efficacy in patients with allergies and other health issues. And, if you use pubmed, you will find that almost all clinical trials use a saline placebo, as do many other vaccine safety studies.

        So, hey, the truth comes to those who seek it. Remember to always verify your claims!

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      • That’s an interesting perspective. So, tell me please, if vaccines aren’t in any way associated with any of these injuries then WHY does VAERS even exist? WHY are there “black box labels” on specific vaccines… and even the “harmless” vitamin K shot? WHY do vaccine inserts, that include possible adverse effects, align with autism like symptoms, such as brain swelling and neurological damage? WHY is there a vaccine court set up that has paid out for countless injuries, of which were found to have been caused by VACCINES? And, WHY would the vaccine manufacturers keep such a court out of the public eye?

        It’s time to step out of your box. I can personally say I have seen the clear difference between fully vaccinated and unvaccinated children, and the unvaccinated far surpass the health of the vaccinated ones. In addition, you may want to do some more research on these diseases you fear so much, as well as their history. There is much more for you to learn, outside of the fear based agenda that you’ve apparently fed into.

        Recommend you watch The Truth About Vaccines while you’re at it. There are far too many medical professionals and scientists speaking out now, and it will only increase.

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      • Vaccines can cause harm, but it is very rare. That is why VAERS exists. The black box label on the Vitamin K shot is warning providers not to give it intravaneously.

        I have seen the entire Truth (lies) about vaccines series. Consult my index.

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      • Stephanie: “I can personally say I have seen the clear difference between fully vaccinated and unvaccinated children, and the unvaccinated far surpass the health of the vaccinated ones.”

        Grab at least ten thousand of those stories, make sure they are verifiable… and you might have an actual study worthy to be published as a scientific study. Until then… you have nothing.

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  4. Respectfully, you claim that several of these individuals are making these claims and decrying the lack of evidence of same, yet then go on to issue your own diagnosis based on your rather limited review of symptoms, and simply declare that you know better than the individuals as to the cause and source of these particular issues?

    You are in an even worse position to make such declarations than the parents experiencing these issues from day to day. Pardon me if I remain skeptical of your medical prowess in knowing the truth from the other side of a keyboard, without the concern of a patient’s full history or day to day symptoms.

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  5. correction:

    Here is why I believe that nearly all vaccine success stories are not really vaccine success stories: there is not only no evidence to verify a single one of the claims, there is abundant evidence to the contrary.

    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/publications/search_result_record.cfm?id=48636

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2726323/

    http://www.stjosephpost.com/…/about-73-confirmed…/ Mumps – 73 confirmed and suspected, all vaccinated. November 2016

    http://www.thv11.com/…/mmr-vaccine-not…/357183577 Mumps – 1500 cases, most vaccinated November 2016

    http://www.thv11.com/…/mmr-vaccine-not…/357183577 Mumps – 1500 cases, most vaccinated November 2016

    http://www.kansascity.com/…/missouri/article115467353.html Mumps – 31 confirmed, 27 suspected, ALL up to date with two doses of MMR, November 2016

    http://www.ksdk.com/…/four-confirmed-mumps…/346486122 Mumps 4/4 vaccinated Nov 2016

    http://www.kcrg.com/…/Dubuque-Schools-say-skipping… Mumps – 32/32 vaccinated Nov 2016

    http://www.arkansasonline.com/…/mumps-ousters…/… Mumps – 98/98 vaccinated Sept 13, 2016

    http://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/…/Comm…/Pages/Mumps.aspx December 2016 updated mumps 1872 people, 90-95% of kids fully vaccinated.

    http://www.fios1news.com/lon…/long-beach-mumps-outbreak… Mumps – 18/18 vaccinated Aug 1, 2016

    http://www.cnn.com/…/harvard-university-mumps-outbreak/ Mumps – 40/40 vaccinated, April 2016

    http://abcnews.go.com/…/mumps-cases-reported-nj-college… Mumps – 8/8 vaccinated 2016

    http://www.cbsnews.com/…/nearly-a-dozen-harvard…/ Mumps – Didn’t disclose numbers but said some were vaccinated (didn’t mention if any of them weren’t) April, 2016

    http://www.thecrimson.com/…/mumps-concerns-HUHS-director/ Mumps – 40 cases, “all required to have vaccine prior to Harvard entry.” April 26, 2016

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/health/ohio-mumps/ Mumps – 44/45 vaccinated March 24, 2014

    http://www.cambridgepublichealth.org/news/article.php?id=171 mumps – 16/16 vaccinated, March 24, 2016

    http://www.thecrimson.com/…/university-quarantines…/ Mumps – 6/6 vaccinated, March 7, 2016

    http://www.wlky.com/…/Health-officials-urge…/38305038 Mumps – 1/1 vaccinated, March 2, 2016

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/…/mumps-outbreak-in-denver…/ Mumps – 6/6 vaccinated February 24, 2016

    http://www.wkyt.com/…/UK-students-with-mumps-up-to-date… Mumps – 3/3 vaccinated, February 22, 2016

    http://www.wthr.com/…/update-butler-university-confirms… Mumps – 9/9 vaccinated February 19, 2016

    About 73 confirmed, suspected mumps cases at University of Missouri
    STJOSEPHPOST.COM|BY ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Meningitis vaccine making it worse in Africa
    http://newamericannews.com/meningitis-vaccine-campaign-continues-fail-800-new-cases/#

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  6. This is the most horrible article I’ve read, targeting families who are already going through too much. If you’re trying to convince people to vaccinate, this angle won’t help you. You raise more red flags to concerned parents. Signed, a parent who was on the fence about it.

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      • Most of the stories? You have looked into the majority of the thousands of cases on the bus? You make the lame point of the fact that most of these cases have not gone through the vaccine court. Most people are not even informed that it exists. VAERS, the reporting system, is vastly underutilized. VAXXED has at least made it known. The pharmaceutical companies were being sued so much that they said they would stop making vaccines unless they were protected from further lawsuits. I recently heard of a case of SIDS that happened to a perfectly healthy baby in the middle of the day within a few hours of getting his two-month shots. The coroner asked the ICU doctor if it could have been the vaccines given earlier in the day. The doctor said no. And so it was listed as SIDS. However, the pediatrician who had administered the vaccine earlier that day could not brush it aside, nor could he brush aside a case of severe and regressive autism that happened to a very healthy child, He started to look into things and gradually went from being a self-described “vaccine bully” to being an advocate for truly informed choice. He still vaccinates if the parents decide on that after accessing the risks on both sides.

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      • I have read a few hundred vaccine injury stories and only found one that was a true vaccine injury, compensated by vaccine court.

        Vaxxed is a pack of lies. I would encourage you to use my index to find my review of the manipulative film.

        If a baby died of a vaccine issue, you would see brain swelling or throat swelling from encephalitis or anaphylaxis. An autopsy would clearly find signs.

        There are many genetic disorders that cause regression. Duchennes Muscular dystrophy, Krabbe Disease, Prader-Willi Syndrome, Autism. They all have nothing to do with vaccines.

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  7. Excellent article!! It is such a shame that some parents seek to blame vaccines for everything bad that happens. I hope they can one day get to the real heart of their children’s medical issues and stop endangering children like this.

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  8. “Here is why I believe that nearly all vaccine success stories are not really vaccine injuries: there is not only no evidence to verify a single one of the claims, there is abundant evidence to the contrary.”

    Your comment makes no sense.

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  9. I read your piece with interest. As a family we are NOT anti vaccine in fact my children are vaccinated up to date. However I do take exception to the notion you put forward in regards to vaccine injury! I as a parent watched first hand my 5year old child go into near fatal anaphylaxis to school booster shots! He was a happy smiling healthy 5 year old one months and a mess the next! There is no coincidence here! To say these stories are not true and to select 3 studies from the thousands that are recorded is poor research and unobjective at best! It is articles like this one that causes confusion and miss understanding around vaccination and as a writer you should want to ensure that your pieces are not only accurate but also followed by credible studies of which you have referenced none! As a mother I would urge you to be objective when it comes to other parents experiences only the have lived them and I hope for your sake you never have to watch your small child suffer at the hands of a supposed vaccination programme that should protect them but clearly there are still safety issues here that need to be resolved to ensure no more babies or young children suffer whilst trying to protect them as best we can!

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    • No one would question anaphylaxis. I suffered it from taking a sulfa drug. But, anaphylaxis happens within 24 hours and is a severe allergic reaction involving a severe rash, low bp, breathing issues, swelling. It does not cause developmental changes. I am not sure what happened to your child but I don’t think anaphylaxis is the correct term. What I would like to know is what the doctors told you and what you mean by “a mess.” What was the diagnosis.

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  10. So… let me ask you.. why would 6,000 people show up to tell their life stories… and why would so many tell the same series of events leading to autism. You’ve really got to concoct a motive, and an explanation for this one. Then we’ll see if your lack of belief is believable.

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    • Well, something like 40% of Americans believe the earth is younger than 5000 years and dinosaurs and humans co-existed. A certain percentage of Americans believe the earth is flat. Some people believe black salve can suck out only cancer cells and leave healthy cells intact. Some people think drinking their own urine will cure all their health issues. There is no way for me to completely understand why people believe in pseudoscience. 6000 is certainly a small number compared to a 230 million population. Perhaps it is a combination of mistrusting science and government and having their mistrust and pseudoscientific beliefs supported by Polly and her team. With autism, I think some people want very much to believe it is new and a product of vaccine damage because that absolves them of the guilt of it being genetic. They can think “it wasn’t me” and feel better. I find the damage rhetoric so very sad and I know adults with autism find it incredibly demoralizing. It literally portrays them as less than human. I think the parents who believe their children are damaged are selfish in that they cannot perceive of their autistic children as whole humans. Polly, herself, talks very badly about her own son. It makes me cringe to hear how she talks about him. And, of course, the supporting of parents who kill their autistic children, because their feelings matter more than the child’s, is abhorent.

      Bottom line, there are many reasons a small percentage of people buy into unproven ideas about vaccines but certainly the cheerleading they get from the Vaxxed bus and all the antivax groups is a big part of it.

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  11. YOU ARE A HEARTLESS, IGNORANT IDIOT! HOW DARE YOU EVEN FOR A SECOND QUESTION THESE PEOPLE’S TESTIMONIES. YOU HAVE NO PLACE, YOU HAVE NOT LIVED WITH THEM SINCE DAY ONE, THEY HAVE SHOWED THEIR PROOF, THEIR STUDIES AND RESEARCH. STOP FEEDING THE GOVERMENTS PROPAGANDA.

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  12. It is a USA problem. With 50% of their people uneducated and without being assisted by a logic brain. Simply put. Poor genetics and poor social norms. And a system that supports such incredible dull-wittedness. The problem is they breed and multiply. The USA will go on making these sub-humans to the determent of the rest of their country. Not having a ‘tripe-antenna’ is a fatal flaw in their make-up and only education MIGHT help.

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    • Sadly, not vaccinating is a first world problem. As the epidemic of measles grows in Europe, Italy, France, and Germany have had to take tougher stances on vaccines. Australia has recently made legal changes to public benefits, denying childcare benefits to antivaxers. It is not just USA.

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  13. Mary Louise mentioned in her comment that a true vaxxed vs. unvaxxed study has yet to be done. Most of us realize that this would be unethical and too expensive to be practical.

    I have a question though. If a double blind study were to be done, how many anti-vaxxers would really allow their children to take part? Their children could get an actual vaccine, and they have no choice in the matter. Curious what anti-vaxxers would say about this.

    I know I would never want my children to take part, because I’d want to make sure they get all of their vaccines. I wouldn’t want to leave them unprotected.

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    • Because antivaxers don’t truly understand what they are asking, they think a vaxed v unvaxed observational study would satisfy their claim. They would willingly give their children to that study. They don’t realize they are asking for what you describe, which is 18 years of not knowing if their child is vaccinated or not. None of them would do that. I agree with you! I would never risk my children being exposed to diseases! Plus, no country would ever approve such a study.

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  14. Since the 1920s, aluminum salts have been used primarily as the adjuvant in most childhood vaccines to optimize the body’s immune response to the injected disease. Aluminum is now known to be neurotoxic and the root cause of many serious illnesses including MS and Alzheimer. The aluminum adjuvant was only tested for 28 days, on two rabbits, and their remains have mysteriously disappeared. What the pharmaceutical companies don’t make public is how the aluminum adjuvant was never rigorously tested before going on the market and there were alternatives albeit slightly more expensive–available.

    Injecting Aluminum features interviews with MMF patients, doctors, scientists, and influential politicians who are speaking out for the very first time about the dangers of aluminum in vaccines. This groundbreaking documentary calls in to question the public health policies around aluminum in vaccines and the failure of health agencies globally to respond to the known neurotoxic effects of this powerful vaccine ingredient on the human body.

    http://cinemalibrestudio.com/injecting-aluminum/synopsis.html

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  15. Vaccines may not have an immediate reaction in everyone. For those that do have adverse reactions, it can be a nightmare. I was pro-vaxx did everything doctors recommended. My daughter was given 2 month series including DTAP, Polio, and a couple more. That night she had 106.9 temp found her lethargic and almost non responsive. On 3-28-03 called Lakeville, MN 911, went to Apple Valley Health Partners pedestrian. Temp was a “common” response to vaccines, she would be fine. She started the encephalitic scream 3-29-03. I didn’t know it was a “thing.” Was told it was colic, although 2 days prior it didn’t exist. 3 daycare providers asked us to not bring her back within 2 days. It was an ear piercing scream. Then the otitis media started. ENT’s, 13 ear infections, living on antibiotics. Told the mast cells swollen spot in her leg for over a month was normal and just massage it everyday. I never made connection all were related to vaccines. Delayed speech until 28 months. We actually taught her sign language to stop her from screaming at me all the time. Eczema – again another Big Pharma product. Etc etc. Manufacturers DTAP insert states last sentence of known adverse reactions – SIDS. Read the entire insert. In addition it states, serious consideration should be given whether to administer any additional vaccines containing pertussis for anyone the experienced > 105 degree temp after DTAP. Well, she was given 5 more doses. 4 doctors at Riverway Clinic in Elk River, promised these fevers only happen to 1 in 13,000 babies and my second daughter would be fine. They gave her both Tylenol and Ibuprofen in the office prior to administering just the DTAP. Well you guessed correct, 105.4 temp with fever reducing meds on board and I held her and stayed awake to monitor her. Repeat otitis media, colic, acid reflux, eczema, antibiotics ~ you know money making ill babies for doctors and Big Pharma. Fast forward 5 years, find out I am pregnant with baby 3. Fear. I explained I couldn’t live with another screaming sick baby to Dr. Seth my Chiropractor for a neck injury. Anyway, he educated me. Really taught me to read inserts and understand adverse reactions. But of course, like all pro-vaxx people, my doctors have the best interest for my babies and they are significantly more educated in medicine then I am. They would have told me all those things my oldest two suffered were vaccine related. Correct? It took me awhile to start to listen and believe everything Dr Seth was trying to get me to understand. 3 baby, vaccines yep you guessed it. Only doctors and I are “smarter” this time. Instead of antibiotics for the ear infections, ENT’s would put tubes in and take his Adenoids out. Yes remove part of his lymphatic system so he wouldn’t suffer as bad from adverse reactions to vaccines. Ok perfectly health baby, prior to vaccines. It will be a good idea to remove part of his lymphatic system so he doesn’t react badly to the vaccines at 8 weeks old.
    So if you are still following this long story (I am no author, and trying to relay all the info quickly as I need to get going) This is screaming stupidity. My Chiropractor is trying so hard to convince me to understand the big picture. I am bull headed, Chiropractor’s are quacks and doctors, ENT Specialists, (now we have a Pulmonologist for the 3rd at Children’s) Pulmonologists, AT Children’s, are extremely educated and have repeatedly treated these illnesses they obviously know best. Right? But, my Chiropractor took away my migraines, but he took away my severe neck pain without medications (from an injury when I was a police officer 12 years prior). Insert Congnative Dissonance……………… Could the quack be right and all those doctors and hospitals wrong.
    We’d find out. Stop vaccines.
    HUGE surprise, birth control NuvaRing = positive pregnancy test with it still inserted, (can we trust Big Pharma, that wasn’t effective).
    Anecdotal evidence. Chiropractor – cognitive dissonance………….:
    Chiropractor research….. your baby doesn’t need Hep B vaccine at two days old unless the mother has Hep B, you anticipate your baby using dirty needles or having unprotected sex. What? Yes, hospital will give your baby the Hep B vaccine. Um no, not necessary.
    Chiropractor research vitamin k. Read diverse articles. Be informed. Well ok….
    https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/skip-that-newborn-vitamin-k-shot/

    Um ya, linked to childhood cancers. My brother had childhood cancer. Lip tie, tongue tie = baby doesn’t have acid reflux they need medicine for, they are tied and nursing sucking causes gas. Clip.

    Baby #4: no vaccines, no ear infections, no screaming, no antibiotics, no ENT, no Pulmonogist, no pneumonia, no chronic ear infections, no adenoids out, no nebulizer, no encephalitic scream, no constipation, no 105+ temps, no eczema and steroids, no delayed speech. What? Really? Same parents, baby looks like a clone of the other three. happy baby what?
    How could this be?

    What, childhood illnesses are normal and build lymphatic immune system that later is strong enough to fight cancer?

    Measles cure for Multiple Myeloma cancer?
    Polio cure for brain cancer?
    Research it.
    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/cancer-survivor-saved-measles-virus-raises-funds-expanded/story%3fid=25410649

    Wait Bih Pharma make billions on vaccines, Big Pharma make billions and medicines to treat cancers? Carcinogens in vaccines, could this me true. Yes it is, research it.

    Gardasil banned in other countries. Other countries have law suits against manufacturers?
    This article will explain the concerns and research studies on all vaccines outside of the US. Big Pharma has high stakes and will discredit anything here.
    https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa14/2014/10/08/gardasil-preventing-or-inducing-cancer/

    We shall see if my post gets edited. #real concerns
    You can’t make this stuff up.
    Sheeple

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    • Inserts do not list side effects. They list adverse events reported without regard to causation. There is always more research done after clinical trials. Please read more than inserts.

      I don’t find healthy home economist a good source. She shills for a lot of different products. A couple of years ago, I followed all her affiliate links to all the supplements she recommends and kept a cost tally. If I had bought her recommended supplements for my family of four, it would have cost $900 a month. That is incredible for products one does not actually need if you just eat right.

      Gardasil is not banned in any country anywhere. Not in Japan, not in India, not in Ireland, not in Spain. Not anywhere.

      Childhood illnesses used to injure or kill tens of thousands of American children a year. Currently, we pay out 150 vaccine injury claims a year. The risks of diseases far outweigh vaccine risks. That is why me and mine are fully vaccinated.

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    • And I am sorry you have such unhealthy children. With children who have immune issues, we are lucky to have vaccines. VPDs would likely have killed your kids, in previous generations. We are blessed to have vaccines. Because of them, we have an all time low IMR and SIDs rate. See my three part series about infant mortality rate, link in index.

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  16. Now that Hannah Robinson has given birth to her unplanned baby, she must be missing all of the attention she previously enjoyed. Since she’s not the center of attention anymore, her health has mysteriously worsened, with many nebulous, unproven “symptoms” and a lot of whining online. I’ve been following her story for several years, and frankly I don’t think she has a conversion disorder. I think it’s entirely fake and she is aware that she is faking it. I believe she does this for attention and in order to not have to go to school, get a job, and live as an adult. By the way, from what I can tell, her enabling mother is the one who is ACTUALLY taking care of Hannah’s son.

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  17. Interesting that you don’t feel the need to supply data of evidence yourself for this article. How is it okay for you to make statements and we are just supposed to accept that, but if a mother claims to have had a bad experience following vaccinations she should simply ignore it and follow the word of the ‘experts’.
    These are our children. If there is ANY question of risk, why are we not looking deeper?

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    • I am sorry you did not find the evidence I cited conclusive.

      Also, there is a great deal of scientific investigation into reports of adverse events after vaccination. How do you think we know vaccines don’t cause SIDS or epilepsy or autism? Because science looked. You should google the vaccine safety datalink and read the hundreds of studies they have done on VAERS reports.

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