I got challenged to a quiz, while chatting on the CDC Facebook page today. I thought I would share. I answered from the top of my head. Did I do okay? Feel free to share this post if you ever get challenged to this quiz.
Note: I answered these questions as part of a challenge on Facebook. I was pretty proud that I answered them all in about five minutes. I appreciate all the clarifying comments. I am aware of all those details, but did not post them in the FB thread because I was trying to be super brief. But thanks!
1. Name 5 vaccine ingredients – aluminum salts, neomycin, various cells, polysorbate 80, albumin,
2. What is MRC-5? Cells from an fetus legally aborted 50+years ago on which some viruses are cultured.
3. What is WI-38? same as #2
4. What is vaccine court? Colloquial term for USCFC wherein people can file a claim of vaccine injury.
5. What is the national vaccine injury compensation program? VICP is the same as vaccine court
6. What is the 1986 national vaccine injury act? Federal act, co-written by founders of NVIC, with a great many safety laws and guidelines for informed consent, etc, also specifies how and when you can file a claim for vaccine injury and mandates high safety standards for vaccine production and distribution.
7. How has the CDC schedule changed since 1986? As science has developed more vaccines to prevent serious diseases, they have been added to schedule. Examples are rotavirus, PCV13, HIB.
8. How much money has been paid out by vaccine injury court? A bit more than $3 billion for claims and attorney fees. Compared to 5 billion doses given in 30 years, injury rate is 0.000011%.
9. How many doses of how many vaccines are in the CDC schedule between birth and age 18? Off the top of my head, we protect against 14-16 diseases.
10. Do vaccine contain DNA from aborted fetal cell lines? No. When viruses are grown on any cells, they are removed from those cells and purified before use in vaccines.
If so, which vaccines? None.
11. Do any vaccines contain dog, Monkey, Pig, and human DNA? No, see #10.
12. What is an adjuvant? Something that stimulates immune response to vaccine works better.
13. What is an antigen? The disease components in the vaccines.
14. Which arm of the immune system do vaccines stimulate? adaptive
15. Which arms of the immune system do natural diseases stimulate? innate
16. What is transverse myelitis? Inflammation of the spinal cord, often caused by natural infection
17. What is encephalopathy? Brain swelling, often caused by natural infection
18. What is the rate of autism in 2017, what was it in 2000? What was it in 1980? Autism rate today is 1.5%.
19. What is glyphosate and is it in vaccines? It is a pesticide and not in any vaccines.
20. If your child is injured, who will take physical, emotional and financial responsibility? Same person who takes responsibility if your child is injured by a disease – you. You could file a claim in federal court, if you meet the time table.
21. What was the Supreme Courts statement on vaccines in 2011? Bruesewitz v Wyeth is too long to summarize herein.
22. Can you provide a study showing vaccinated vs unvaccinated health outcomes? Yes, many. One is called KIGGS. Google it.
23. Can you show me a safety study proving it is safe to inject multiple vaccines? Yes, Dr Offit authored one for the journal Pediatrics. Google it.
24. What is shedding? Something antivaxers fear irrationally but, in reality, is mostly myth. There are no outbreaks caused by vaccines shedding.
25. Do vaccines shed? Which vaccines can shed for up to 6 weeks? Some live vaccines can shed, such as measles in urine, rotavirus in feces, chicken pox in pox, but there are no outbreaks connected with these vaccines. There are only a couple of cases of children shedding to siblings when proper hygiene protocol was not followed.
26. Which vaccines are live virus vaccines? MMR, oral polio (which we do not use in USA), smallpox ( which is only for military), rotavirus, and the nasal flu mist (which we don’t use in USA )
27. What is the VICP? You already asked this question. See #s 4-6
28. What is SV 40? It was a virus that was found in one of the early live polio vaccines. It was killed when it went thru the digestive system and never caused any health concerns in humans.
29. What is MTHFR and how is it affected by vaccines. A gene we all carry. It can have mutations, which antivaxers worry about, but all you need to do is take extra folate and you will be fine. It is not a valid reason to avoid vaccines, despite what naturopaths and health nuts think.
30. What is an acceptable amount of aluminum to be me ingested per day and what is the aluminum content of the Hep B shot given at birth? The ingested limit for intravenous feeding solutions that have aluminum in them is 25 mcg. That has nothing whatsoever to do with vaccines. FDA has approved vaccines as safe.
31. Can someone who was vaccinated for pertussis still spread pertussis after being exposed to it? If so for how long? Vaccinated baboons, when exposed to wild pertussis, were shown to colonize the pertussis in their throats for weeks but they were asymptomatic and thus not spreading the disease. Therefore, vaccinating are not spreading pertussis unless they get pertussis and have symptoms, which is unlikely.
32. What is the death from measles in the past 10 years in the US? From the MMR vaccine? According to CDC Wonder database, there have been 49 deaths from measles in the USA in the last ten years and zero from MMR.
Well, that was fun.
Happy weekend everyone!
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Teensy comment (love your blog, BTW, and added it to my blog’s sidebar!):
On 4): the vaccine court is not the US Court of Federal Claims but rather a special function of the USCFC. Quite technically, it is the Office of Special Masters of the USCFC – as opposed to the USCFC that handles trials, presided over by its judges, against the United States, the Special Masters are judicial officers who make determinations on liability and quantum and dispense compensation from the compensation fund paid for by the manufacturers of certain vaccines (not all, but all common ones). Using Special Masters to decide on claims to money from a fund is pretty common, e.g. the 9/11 compensation fund was so allocated. In particular, claims in the ‘vaccine court’ follow a procedure different from that usually relevant for tort cases: there is no need to prove anything beyond causation and damage, i.e. no need to prove fault or negligence. Decisions of the Special Masters are not ‘against’ the manufacturer, do not make a determination that the manufacturer did anything wrong or was at fault for the injury but in fact lie against the United States. Hypothetically, if a perfectly fine vaccine were to be intentionally tainted during transport by, say, trace radioactivity of unknown origin, it would also be compensable under the rules of the vaccine court. In that sense, even describing it as a court is a little strange – it’s more a way to allocate a pot of money, which, incidentally, comes from a levy charged per vax.
On 5): Sort of true. The vaccine court was established as part of the NVIC, but the NVIC also handles the other end of the story, i.e. procuring the money through the per-vax levy.
On 29): MTHFR, like most proteins, exists in a number of mutant versions. Typically, these are on a sliding scale of effectiveness. Consider having to hammer in a nail – a hammer is ideal, you can technically use a wrench, ok, if need be, you can use the end of a screwdriver, but you most definitely can’t hammer it in with a t-shirt. Right? Same with MTHFR. About a third of the population has an MTHFR SNP that is associated w/some loss of function defect. BUT – and this part matters: because *some* SNPs are associated with adverse outcomes especially w/the smallpox vaccine historically does not mean that everyone with a loss of function mutation will be affected the same, or at all. Complete MTHFR deficiency (‘knockout’) is so rare, there are maybe 70 or so cases in all of medical history and these are pretty obvious. If you needed a genetic test to figure out you have an MTHFR deficiency, you may have a harmless loss of function deficit that is not going to seriously affect your ability to cope with a vaccine. This is because the effectiveness of the MTHFR enzyme is not the limiting factor in any biological process, even if only a tiny amount is present.
On 32): “From measles” is a tricky term. If you include long term complications from measles, in particular subacute sclerotising panencephalitis, which affects 1:10,000 people w/Measles and is usually fatal. Because SSPE has a different ICD-10 code (A81.1 as opposed to measles’ B05.*), searches to determine annual mortality do not take that into account. Nor are deaths from pulmonary and other sequelae of measles considered. The true figure is probably higher.
Good job! 🙂
Thanks. I do know how vaccine court works. I answered the questions in less than five minutes and on FB to begin with, so that is why my answers are brief. You added valuable details.
“18. What is the rate of autism in 2017, what was it in 2000? What was it in 1980? Autism rate today is 1.5%.”
To which I have to ask which version of the DSM is used to diagnose the autism.
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Yes, exactly. My own daughter would never have been diagnosed with anything at all if she had been born when I was (1960s) and likely would not have been diagnosed ASD even a few years ago. She likely would have been diagnosed PDD-NOS or Aspergers. (she was diagnosed later than usual because, as a girl, her symptoms did not interfere with her education until she got to middle school – not uncommon).
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1. Name 5 ingredients in vaccine: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm . 1. Aluminum 2. Formaldehyde 3. Thimerosal 4. MRC-5 human diploid cells 5. WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts
Thanks for this. I’ll definitely be saving this for later.
Anytime I hear that “AFCs are in vaccines” I always say “saying AFCs are in vaccines is like saying there’s dirt in marinara sauce because tomatoes grow out of the ground.”
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I like that analogy! LOL
Not an AV
But i think question 30 makes a bit of sense. You said that intravenous IVs have around 25mcg. Well according to the AAP in the vaccines given in the first 6 months of life there are around 4000mcg of aluminium.
Yeah sure we know vaccines work. But its still a huge amount and a bit shocking to me
“Well according to the AAP in the vaccines given in the first 6 months of life there are around 4000mcg of aluminium.”
Citation needed. Link to the a less than ten year old actual paper from the AAP required at a minimum.