Tonight, I was able to watch a debate between a provaccine pediatrician from Idaho, Dr. Alicia Lachiondo, and a woman with a bachelor’s degree in toxicology, Ashley Everly Cates. I have embedded the 45-minute show for you here, should you wish to watch. It was an interesting and well-done debate. The two hosts, CBS Boise News staff members Brent Hunsaker and Natalie Hurst, did a fine job asking meaningful questions and soliciting answers from both ladies.
Click on the link below to watch the debate yourself.
https://leekwire.com/v/vEmbed/5187
First of all, who are the participants?
Dr. Alicia Lachiondo is a pediatrician at St. Lukes Treasure Valley Pediatricians in Boise, Idaho. She is a Boise Native who went to Notre Dame for undergraduate studies and the University of Washington School of Medicine for medical school. She is a member of Get Immunized Idaho.
Ashley Everly Cates graduated from UC Davis with a degree in environmental toxicology. She currently runs Health Freedom Idaho. She does not have any advanced degrees. According to her LinkedIn, she has not had actual employment in the field of toxicology.
Sidebar: not sure why Ashley is called a “blood toxicologist” in the title.
Alicia is the doctor.
Ashley is the “toxicologist”
Here are my notes on the debate:
Host: Are vaccine info sheets enough? Ashley says no, they don’t reflect independent research or latent effects, especially about aluminum and autoimmunity. She says children are sicker than ever, more cancer than ever. She cites the 300% increase in the number of vaccine doses given since the 1980s and how vaccines are not tested for cancer or mutagenicity, nor are ingredients tested. She is, apparently, not familiar with the EPA IRIS database, which is very strange for a “toxicologist”
Dr. Alicia explains how she looks at research and how the CDC makes recommendations. She explains about good research and Ashley nods and says mm, hm, in the background. Dr. Alicia talks about HIB meningitis and other serious side effects of infectious diseases. Alicia explains risk analysis.
Kathy
Thank you for going through this so thoroughly. It’s very concerning to think that people not familiar with the facts would be misled by a non-expert making incorrect claims.
This is one problem with such a debate, when only one side is bound by facts.
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Thank you for this!
By the way, I just finished reading Dr. Peter Hotez’s book Vaccines Did Not Cause Rachel’s Autism. It really showed how if you met one autistic person, you have met exactly one autistic person. Rachel is nothing like my son who is at least five years older and also on the spectrum.
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You don’t need advanced degrees to understand vaccines are poison. It was obvious this doctor knew nothing except what she had been told by the CDC, and Ashley had ACTUALLY researched the topic.
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You do need science degrees to understand why vaccines ingredients are not dangerous. https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients
I have yet to see indication that this person did research. Her comments show lack of knowledge and understanding.
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“You don’t need advanced degrees to understand vaccines are poison.”
Oh, really? Perhaps you can tell us what in vaccines is more poisonous than tetanospasmin. Or the other toxins produced by bacterial infections like diphtheria and pertussis.
In reality you need to compare the relative risks of the vaccines versus the actual diseases, not just repeating old stale and false anti-vaccine tropes. Good nutrition is not helping the over sixty with measles in Clark County, especially those who have been hospitalized.
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I don’t see any evidence Ashley has researched anything. She has never published anything. The rhetoric she uses strongly indicates she is not familiar with the EPA IRIS database and LD50 for the ingredients. The pediatrician, on the other hand, understands how the dose makes the poison and how nothing in vaccines is toxic or poisonous.
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True. All Wakefield needed was a check for a few hundred thousand pounds to decide that antivaxxers were a profitable group of suckers to milk.
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