For the past month or so, the following post has been going viral on Facebook. The poster, Ms Figueroa, is a well known antivaxer from New York who posts a great deal on vaccine-related threads. She routinely blocks anyone who is provax so please don’t think she is interested in learning from any of us. I am refuting her post for others.
She claims that she called poison control and had the following conversation:
“I gathered all vaccine ingredients into a list and contacted Poison Control. After intros and such, and asking to speak with someone tenured and knowledgeable, this is the gist of that conversation.
Me: My question to you is how are these ingredients categorized? As benign or poison? (I ran a few ingredients, formaldehyde, Tween 80, mercury, aluminum, phenoxyethanol, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate, sorbitol, etc.)
He: Well, that’s quite a list… But I’d have to easily say that they’re all toxic to humans… Used in fertilizers… Pesticides… To stop the heart… To preserve a dead body… They’re registered with us in different categories, but pretty much poisons. Why?
Me: If I were deliberately to feed or inject my child with these ingredients often, as a schedule, obviously I’d put my daughter in harm’s way… But what would legally happen to me?
He: Odd question… But you’d likely be charged with criminal negligence… perhaps with intent to kill… and of course child abuse… Your child would be taken away from you… Do you know of someone’s who’s doing this to their child? This is criminal…
Me: An industry… These are the ingredients used in vaccines… With binding agents to make sure the body won’t flush these out… To keep the antibody levels up indefinitely…
Now, anyone with any knowledge about how toxicity works would understand that vaccine ingredients are not toxic in the doses they are in vaccines. Nothing is toxic at all doses. Do you know who especially knows this is fact? The nurses and pharmacists who work for Poison Control! How do I know this? Because I called American Association of Poison Control Centers (PC) at (800) 222-1222 and talked to Joan, RN with Washington Poison Control. We had a very nice conversation. She laughed at the idea that anyone at PC would be read a list of ingredients and call them toxic in all doses. They are specially trained to know that toxicity is based on dose. They are very provax, at poison control, she told me. She said that, in her opinion, everything in the above conversation goes against the standardized poison control training nurses and pharmacists receive to be employed by PC. Also, she said a PC employee would never talk to someone about an action being liable for criminal negligence. Finally, they know very well that THE DOSE MAKES THE POISON. That is what they do at PC, they talk about dose. For example, when my then one year old ate some christmas berries, I called poison control and we talked about how many she had eaten and how there is nothing toxic in the berry but the seeds do have cyanide. Since humans don’t masticate (I learned that word that day) much, there was little to no chance of my child actually getting any cyanide. The seeds would pass through her digestive system whole, just like apples seeds.
Nothing in vaccines is toxic at those doses. Don’t fall for bullshit.
Think for yourself! And do call the nice people at Poison Control if you ever have any poison concerns!
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I think most thinking people know this story was self aggrandizing fiction.
I know. But it was still a nice convo with PC and worth sharing.
Thank you for de-bunking this Internet myth! I look forward to sharing this.
That’s what it is for! I hesitated but this one simply won’t die.
Are her initials IF? She blocked me for asking for a citation.
Why yes, yes that is her. LOL
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Ok so let’s just give our children toxic ingredients in the smallest dose and hope they don’t have a reaction . I’m sure people who have had their children experience a vaccation injury, reaction, or have died after a vaccination regret giving that “small dose.” The ignorance in this county us astounding.
So how is letting a child suffer from the actual pertussis bacteria which make pertussis toxins better? Do please tell us how any of the ingredients in the present American DTaP vaccine are worse than tetanspasmin, diphtheria toxin and pertussis toxin. Provide PubMed indexed studies to support your answer.
Pertussis toxin is highly toxic. That is how it is different. That one won’t be able to answer your question.
Toxicity is based on dose. There is naturally occurring formaldehyde in your food and body. Just one example.
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