A provaxer watched Vaxxed

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Yes, I did. I watched it. And, I am still provax.  Here is my review and commentary.

 

I am going to assume that readers know a lot about the CDC Whistleblower. But, if you need a refresher, here is a complete guide by my fellow blogger friend. Please refer to this guide for the evidence that most, if not all, of the claims made in Vaxxed have been proven false. There is no isolated autism, there is no greater risk of autism in African American boys, the data was not thrown away. It is notable that the filmmakers took only Dr Thompsons’s word about the issues, via uncorroborated and possibly highly edited taped conversations with Dr Brian Hooker. Nowhere in the film are any other autism/vaccine scientists interviewed.

 

If you need to know more about the cast of characters, Dawn has created a short bio for each of them.

 

The film opens with news clips about vaccines and measles and then switches to someone typing on a keyboard and producer Del Bigtree’s voice quoting from William Thompson.  We then hear taped recordings from Thompson’s conversations with Brian Hooker and Hooker begins to tell the story of his child, who is now autistic. Of course, the recent “vaccine court” opinion on Hooker’s son’s case concluded that his child was most definitely not vaccine injured, there were clear signs of autism as young as four months of age, as documented in in his medical records.  This is not mentioned in the film. In fact, Hooker actually shows samples of studies he has authored, studies that were proven to lack validity in his court case. To me, this is disturbing. It is just the first of many lies in the film.

Hooker goes on to explain more of his take on the recordings of conversations with Thompson. He claims he had been trying talk to the CDC for years about the research he had been doing that showed vaccines could cause autism but had hit a wall until they assigned Thompson to talk to him. Throughout the film, we see Hooker explaining how he came to participate in phone conversations with Thompson, why they were recorded without Thompson’s permission, and how he, Hooker, analyzed the data. It should be noted that Hooker is a biochemical engineer and biology professor but that does not give him expertise in this kind of data analysis.

We then switch to Andy Wakefield telling his story. Wakefield claims he got the impetus to study vaccines, autism and gastrointestinal diseases when a mother of an autist called him out of the blue.  Bill Gates is shown discussing how Wakefield’s findings were fraudulent and have been disproven but Wakefield goes on to repeat that he made significant scientific findings. The voiceover from Wakefield is accompanied by more footage of children with autism. These videos are repeatedly show autistic children in crisis, hitting themselves, crying, in diapers, or worse. Throughout the film, neurotypical children are shown in a very positive light and autistic children are shown in crisis situations.

Jonathon and Polly Tommey talk about their story. Their first child, Bella, is shown as a lovely, happy child. Their second child, Billy, apparently got sick after his 6 month vaccines. He was put on antibiotics. The film repeatedly returns to Polly and Jonathon Tommey talking about the day Billy got the MMR. They claim Billy was shaking uncontrollably, in his cot, so they rushed him to the hospital.  They were told he was having a “normal” febrile seizure as a side effect.  They claim the Billy they had before never returned. Other parents, with similar stories, are shown, including Mark Blaxil, Jeanna Reed and Sheila Lewis Ealey.  Their autistic children are shown in very sad circumstances, including crying, being violent, in diapers, while their not autistic children are shown in lovely clothing, performing on the piano and playing. Jon and Polly talk about Billy’s vacancy, his lack of smiling, his blankness and other health problems that impaired Billy after his autism months regression. Billy was “gone,” in their words. They discuss the “tragedy” of Billy regressing into an autistic state. Polly and Jon talk about the television show they were featured on, when Billy was a toddler, and how they started The Autism File magazine as a result of the stories they heard from other parents with autistic children. These events led them to move to the USA and continue to be involved in this kind of autism advocacy.

Wakefield returns to ask if MMR is a risk, if it can lead to autism. He discusses the MMR vaccine that was withdrawn from Canada because it had a higher risk for meningitis. He claims that vaccine was shipped to the UK and then to developing countries, where it was used until meningitis rates were proven too high and it was removed. He claims age of MMR was part of the reason for the increased risk of meningitis and that it is plausible that age of MMR could be the reason for autism regression. This led to the IOM recommending the CDC do a study on the timing the MMR is given. Hooker returns and he and Wakefield claim that Thompson found a legal loophole which enabled him to get the data the CDC wanted hidden to Hooker for analysis. This data came from the study the CDC did on MMR age, the one authored by De Stefano and Thompson. The loophole is called a citizen’s request, according to Wakefield.

It should be noted that the mumps vaccine that had the meningitis issues was the Urabe strain of mumps, which we never used in USA. In the USA, we have used the Jeryl Lynn strain.  This is not mentioned in the film.

Wakefield goes into more details about his study. Still no mention from him as to how and why his study was retracted. He treats the study as valid throughout the film. He makes the point that when they had the press conference for his study, the Dean of the college deflected questions about what to do next to him, Wakefield, knowing full well he would recommend the single vaccines in lieu of MMR as triple jab. Wakefield says this was followed up by the single vaccines being discontinued and option taken away from parents. He says the concern was for the protection of the program over and above protection of children. If you read his book, Callous Disregard, this is one of many claims he made about his now-retracted study.

Hooker talks about how he analyzed the Thompson data. He fails to mention how he has no background in this type of analysis and his paper published on the data has since been retracted. A graph is shown wherein two lines, representing autistic children and not autistic, but no mention is made of the significance of the interval between the two lines. The difference is not valid unless that interval is analyzed. The confidence interval is a range of values so defined that there is a specified probability that the value of a parameter lies within it. But, Wakefield and Hooker do not mention this aspect of data analysis and most people do not understand data analysis at all. This is either a huge error, on their part, or a hugely devious action. Did they leave this information out on purpose?  At this point, Wakefield claims he advised Hooker to tape record Thompson in case the whistleblower, as he is now called, disappears or is killed.

Bigtree then explains the analysis plan. I have to remind myself this explanation is coming from a person who has no college education and makes a living producing cable television shows. Bigtree and Wakefield explain that the analysis plan was mainly written by Thompson and that deviating from an analysis plan is fraud. To remind you, the reality of the analysis plan is fully explained in this blog post.

Note: It is annoying that most of Thompson’s words are accompanied by a rather strange video image of smokey, colored lines moving across the screen. It is so inexplicable that I took a screen shot to share with readers.

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Another part of the problem, in the minds of the film makers, is that the CDC is complicit with “big pharma” in controlling the pharmaceuticals markets. Brandy Vaughn, former Merck salesperson, claims vaccines have less safety testing than other pharmaceuticals. Strangely, this is a lie and it was put into the film without question. Vaughn has no background or training in any science, so it is strange that the filmmakers would use her opinion.

Several “experts” appear in the film. Dr. Doreen Granpeesheh, who runs an autism center called CARD, talks about the signs of autism as videos are shown of children exhibiting these symptoms.  Granpeesheh returns to discuss antibiotic use and regression after vaccines.  We see video footage of Yates Hazelhurt before and after autism diagnosis.  Granpeesheh claims autism is the result of toxic overload, the inability of some children to detoxify. Video of Billy Tommey is shown while Granpeesheh describes how autists become violent as a result of the toxins.

Stephanie Seneff, computer scientist at MIT, comes on to discuss her analysis of the growth of autism. Seneff claims autism rate is going to continue to rise, that it is a perfect exponential curve. She predicts that by 2032, 80% of boys, 50% of all children, will be on the autism spectrum. Respectful Insolence blog has done a nice job of debunking Seneff’s claims.  

Throughout the film, Bigtree speaks to his own self-described expertise as a “medical journalist” and claims that patient stories of autistic regression are ignored by doctors.  He discusses how the CDC “refuses” to do a vaxed versus unvaxed study. He claims the MMR risks would be astronomical and CDC is afraid to do the study. He also discusses how much he does not understand. Yet, even though a great deal of writing about the whistleblower issue had already been done BEFORE the film was made, Bigtree does not bother to interview other scientists, including Dr Matt Carey, for their opinion of the data analysis. He does not say anything about trying to contact Dr Carey or any of the study authors other than Thompson. Further, he makes no mention whatsoever of the autism and vaccine science done by other researchers in and out of the USA. These are all lies by omission.

Debunking a few of Vaxxed’s other lies:

  1. Vaccines are not adequately tested for safety. Wrong. They are more highly tested than other drugs.
  2. The law for vaccine compensation only benefits drug companies. Wrong. The law was written to benefit families and enable a legal climate to exist such that vaccine makers did not stop making vaccines all together.
  3. The vaccine omnibus hearings were defeated by the fraudulent study from the CDC. This is a corruption of justice. Wrong. You can also read more here.
  4. Not one mainstream media source ran the CDC whistleblower story. Wrong.  Stories were run by Time, CNN, Fox, ABC and The Daily Beast.
  5. Autism rate is rising. Wrong. It has stabilized in the last few years.

 

 

So, the film did not open my eyes. The controversy has been swirling since August 2014 and nothing new has changed. The data has been available for download since January 2014. The data was never thrown away as it was always online as part of a large data set called MADDS.

So, why did the filmmakers not mention these facts? Why are they lying? Around the time the film was released, Brian Hooker’s claim for vaccine injury compensation, for his son, was completely denied. I have read the full 58 page opinion and it is damning. Why did the filmmakers not tell the audience about this opinion? I can only guess that they are never going to accept the idea that vaccines do not cause autism, no matter what the science tells them. My guess is that they are going to cling to any “proof” they can find to implicate vaccines as dangerous, whether is is valid or not.

 

 

Thanks for reading and remember to think for yourself!

 

Kathy

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47 thoughts on “A provaxer watched Vaxxed

    • I think you are a fool! There will always be those who cannot accept the truth or God forbid they may be wrong. I think you fall in both categories.
      I have known many children who have shown “signs” at 4 months (mostly due to Hep B at birth) who developed autism with continuous vaccination or miraculously recovered with no more vaccination.
      For all of your supporters, wake up you fools!!! Throw away your egotiscal bullshit, and stop being part of these crimes against our children!
      PS have you met many unvaccinated people? I have, funny they are the healthiest children, adults and seniors I’ve ever met!!! Go do your research on that smarty pants! 😡

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      • I’m sorry but the research does not support your comment. Unvaccinated persons are NOT the healthiest. I have seen first hand as a provider as well as looked at evidenced based research.

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      • I have no egotistical bullshit to throw away. Just good sound science. Yes, I do know unvaccinated people and they are not the healthiest. They endure longer illnesses than most people and tend to subject their children to endless “natural” treatments that really do not work.

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  1. “Hooker returns and he and Wakefield claim that Thompson found a legal loophole which enabled him to get the data the CDC wanted hidden to Hooker for analysis.”

    Hooker has changed his story a few times on this. Usually painting himself as hero.

    CDC made the data available to any researcher who wanted it (and could submit a proposal that shows that there is a legitimate research project). For over 10 years CDC had the info on how to get the data on their website, but no one wanted it. I think they finally took it down before Hooker applied. They put the info back up after Hooker’s (now retracted) paper was published.

    Short version, it’s very, very mundane how he obtained the data.

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  2. 2 comments, looks like pro vacc people agree with this, what people fail to understand is that nobody is against vaccines, what smart people are against is A) that they do not prevent disease, B) and they do a lot of harm, fix those two problems and the debate goes away.

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  3. Very nicely done!

    I’d love to do a study on human belief systems… What is it that despite evidence to the contrary keeps people from accepting proof confirming the opposite of what they believe.

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      • I have wondered, often, if Munchausen /Munchausen by proxy might also play a role in their “reasoning” and beliefs. One of the other things that disgusts me is how vulture like anti-vaxers become when a child passes away (especially from SIDS) and the speed in which they converge on a post about a SIDS death, whether it be a news article or the fb page of the parent(s), and in a horrifying disregard of compassion they start asking if the child was vaccinated. Or jump right to their belief that the child was vaccinated and blame the death on vaccines. They often blame the parents for the child’s death, and I have even seen comments where they say the parent deserved to have their child died because the parents vaccinated their child. I could go on and on, but I am sure you have seen the same and possibly worse.
        Thank you for writing this article, it is something I will definitely share as well. Keep up the great work, and thanks for “taking one for the team” so to speak and watching that horrible “movie” and telling us what it contains. Now I know what is in it and I don’t have to torture myself by going to see it.

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  4. This attempt to spin the most egregious example of the abuse of science into nothing fails.

    Hooker had to wait ten years for the data. Why?
    He was instructed on how to analyze the data by Thompson, who pointed him specifically to the African American and Isolated Autism results. If they were not a big deal, why would he point Hooker to them?
    Thompson’s files (made available to the public via Rep. Bill Posey) includes William Thompson’s ppt prepared for the IOM, which includes the African American and Isolated Autism results. Thompson never have the presentation to the IOM, instead DeStefano did. In
    DeStefano’s ppt to the IOM, both the African American and the Isolated Autism results were removed. WHY?

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    • Yes, your attempt to spin the most egregious abuse of science is terrible and has failed. I know that is not what you wanted to write but your poor grammar skills produced the opposite point you intended. You are abusing science and that is egegrious and you have spun yourself into some antivax saint. However, it was really not very hard at all to prove you wrong.

      Hooker did not have to wait ten years for the data. It was in MADDS the entire time he could have applied to get it at any time.

      https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/developmentaldisabilities/madds.html

      Thompson has an opinion and he shared it with Hooker. Hooker recorded Thompson without his permission, by the way, which is illegal. I am still waiting for Thompson to sue Hooker on that one.

      Thompson had an opinion not supported by anyone else. Hooker’s analysis of the data was retracted as shoddy. Everyone else who has analyzed the data has found the original conclusion accurate.

      Thompsons files were not made public by Rep Posey. Dr Matt Carey asked his office for the files, they gave them over, and Dr Carey made them public.

      Thompson appears, in his letter to Geberdering, to not have very good public speaking confidence. That is likely why he did not do the presentation.

      The African American effect and isolated autism are fabrications of Wakefield and Hooker. They were never there.

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  6. I see you have done your research however I’d like to hear your argument against the fact that there are many documented cases of children being vaccinated or double vaccinated with mmr and then becoming autistic. If autism is not a possible side effect then how could this be possible? Why do all the parents report the same symptoms?

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    • I would refer you to the Brian Hooker vaccine injury claim, wherein you will see how the Hookers did not tell the public the truth about the early warnings signs of developmental issues their son showed before the MMR.

      https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2002vv0472-118-0

      I would also read the book The Panic Virus. You will read about the Cedillo case, where something similar happened.

      Parents miss early warning signs or lie about having ignored them.

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      • Reallt I understand what you are saying but then from that information your saying 100% are either lying or missing warning signs. I can refer you to cases where that has not been the case and i knew someone as a child whom had no symptoms whatsoever and within a day or two they were the equivalent of a zombie. 1 or 2 maybe but we are talking thousands who have all experienced this effect

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      • I tend to see the best in people so I would say they are not lying but missed or ignored warning signs. The antivax movement sucks people in, so it is easy to get caught up in it and go deeper and deeper into the conspiracy worm hole.

        There are genetic issues, like Dravet’s Syndrome, that can be triggered by a fever or such, from an illness or a vaccine. Perhaps the zombie child had Dravet’s? Not very nice to call the child a zombie, by the way.

        And you do realize that most parents of autists, even severely disabled children, are not antivax, right? If you do not, please visit Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism.
        http://www.thinkingautismguide.com/

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  7. Thanks for the post. Haven’t had a chance to see the movie myself yet. In my 27 years in medicine, I’ve seen one vaccine injury – from DTwP, which is no longer in use. If there are 1000s of kids whose “lights go out” immediately after the MMR, why haven’t I seen a single case?

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      • Yes, it seems that in most cases, it is a recall issue. At time of diagnosis, they try to think back to when the first symptoms appeared, and correlate it with the time of vaccines. I really feel there is a lot of denial in these parents. I remember one case of autism I diagnosed in a child I had been following since birth and the signs where there from the beginning. I kept referring him to different specialists and they would never take him. Finally they were trying to send him to preschool and the school tested him and found he was delayed.

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    • unfortunately janem1276 i have seen it once with my own eyes and I have no doubt in my mind that it was the vaccine. I noticed you attacked someone you don’t know about their credentials so I’ll just add I have two single degrees in science and technology, so i’m not a google warrior!

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      • Dr. Paul Offit’s wife is a pediatrician. He relates that she was just about to give a vaccine to a child in her office when the child, later determined to have epilepsy, had his very first ever seizure. There is no doubt that had that seizure happened after the vaccine had been administered the parents would absolutely forever have been convinced that the vaccine caused the seizure.

        The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is very difficult for people to get around.

        A vaccine is not going to turn a child into a zombie in two days. Whatever caused his illness started before he got the vaccine.

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  10. Thanks, Kathy.

    I arrived here via your review of the movie at Amazon.com. What a mess the AV folks are creating there. Since I have no intention of giving Wakefield et. al. any of my money, I appreciate your synopsis very much.

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